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Dec 18, 2023

In this conversation Judith Germain speaks to Jennifer Bryan about how to put people at the heart of change management. Jennifer advocates starting with the person furthest from decision making to understand their perspective, then working inward to establish buy in. 

Key Takeaways

  • Involve a wide range of stakeholders when planning organisational changes. Understand their level of interest and influence.
  • Assess how the change will impact people and their day-to-day work. Address their concerns.
  • Allow plenty of time for change readiness activities before go-live.
  • Use change champions to cascade information and gather feedback. Empower them to engage their teams.
  • Deliver what you promise or explain why plans changed. Maintain trust.

Jennifer Bryan is a published author, TedX, global speaker, and MD of Change and Leadership. She is also a VP of the Association of Change Management Professionals UK and author of 'Leading People in Change: A Practical Guide'.

You can find out more about our guest and today's episode in this Maverick Paradox Magazine article here.


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