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The Maverick Paradox Podcast is a twice weekly show where Judith Germain demonstrates that Maverick Leadership exists everywhere, through her conversations with a diverse array of guests.

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Nov 24, 2023

In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Dana Skaggs about the impact of boundaries on leadership, specifically focusing on the challenges faced by people pleasers. Dana emphasises the importance of setting healthy boundaries and making decisions based on what is best, rather than seeking approval from others.

Dana and Judith discussed the process of moving past people-pleasing and becoming a Socialised Maverick. They explore how individuals can separate themselves from others' opinions, set healthy boundaries, and make decisions based on their own thoughts and feelings, rather than seeking constant approval from others.

They also discuss the concept of cognitive dissonance and how it affects individuals differently. They explore the idea that some people are more willing to change their beliefs when faced with new evidence, while others stubbornly hold onto their old beliefs despite contradictory facts.

In this conversation, Judith and Dana discuss why people cling to outdated beliefs despite contradictory facts. They explore the idea that individuals may hold onto these beliefs because they fulfill certain needs or because they fear losing their sense of identity without them.

Dana and Judith have an interesting conversation about being Mavericks and how they see possibilities instead of problems. They also discuss their motivations and priorities, including weight loss.

Dana Skaggs, a psychotherapist and podcaster is known as 'The Queen of Boundaries' due to her extensive experience and knowledge surrounding the ubiquitous impact of boundaries in our professional and private lives.

You can find out more about our guest and today's episode in this Maverick Paradox Magazine article here.


Maverick leadership is all about thinking outside the box and challenging the status quo. It's about having the courage to take risks and the confidence to lead in a way that is authentic and genuine.

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The consequences of not having the right level of influence as a leader can be significant. Without the ability to inspire and motivate others, you may struggle to achieve your goals and make a real impact.

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Judith's book: The Maverick Paradox: The Secret Power Behind Successful Leaders. 

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