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The Maverick Paradox Podcast is a twice weekly show where Judith Germain demonstrates that Maverick Leadership exists everywhere, through her conversations with a diverse array of guests.

New episodes are released every Monday and Friday at 12pm UK time.

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Jun 14, 2024

In today's episode Judith Germain speaks to Norman Bacal about slaying the mythical two-headed Perality (Perception and Reality) beast. Norman shares with Judith the collapse of his successful Canadian Law Firm and how he felt and dealt with the feelings of failure and loss.

He wrote three books (the Take Charge series) based from this time. 

They discuss the differences in perceptions and how to use psychology to succeed, and how organisational culture is derived.

In this interesting conversation Norman talks about how to harness your fear and learning how to communicate and serving others are the keys to success in business and in life. He explains why lawyers are often very brittle when dealing with their own personal conflicts.

This podcast was originally recorded in November 22.

Norman Bacal is a rewired lawyer, former law firm leader and one time, one of Canada's leading film finance attorneys. His TED talk has reached close to half a million viewers.

You can find out more about our guest and today's episode in this Maverick Paradox Magazine article here.


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Judith's book: The Maverick Paradox: The Secret Power Behind Successful Leaders. 

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