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The Maverick Paradox Podcast is a twice weekly show where Judith Germain demonstrates that Maverick Leadership exists everywhere, through her conversations with a diverse array of guests.

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Feb 27, 2023

In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Douglas Squirrel about his response to being fired consistently because he was too good at his job. They discuss why talented Maverick Leaders tend not to stay in organisations and take their talents into their own businesses.

Willing to do something that is not normally associated with your job title is the maverick way! Douglas talks about Bing's Ai assisted search engine and whether it's a controlled failure, and planned strategy (this is one week before Microsoft restricted Bing's output).

This is a conversation on how to build trust in teams and how C-Suite leaders should do nothing as a springboard to talk about controlled failure and how it brings team together. Douglas shares his take on The Ladder of Inference - how to break down someone's story into small steps, how did they get to where they are now.

Douglas Squirrel is an expert in inspirational technical leadership, an advisor, author, speaker, coach, consultant and Founder of Squirrel Squared. Having worked with over 150 companies in his 21 years as a senior technical leader, Squirrel makes tech teams insanely profitable. Using a set of clever management techniques called Action Science he helps companies of all sizes make huge, profitable improvements in their culture, skills and processes.


Maverick leadership is all about thinking outside the box and challenging the status quo. It's about having the courage to take risks and the confidence to lead in a way that is authentic and genuine.

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The consequences of not having the right level of influence as a leader can be significant. Without the ability to inspire and motivate others, you may struggle to achieve your goals and make a real impact.

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