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The Maverick Paradox Podcast is a twice weekly show where Judith Germain demonstrates that Maverick Leadership exists everywhere, through her conversations with a diverse array of guests.

New episodes are released every Monday and Friday at 12pm UK time.

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Nov 17, 2023

In this Short Talk episode Judith Germain speaks to Cassie Petrey about her experience with imposter syndrome and how she reframed it as a sign of caring and passion for her work. Cassie also shares how she looks for the same qualities in potential hires, emphasising the importance of caring and wanting to be present in a role.

Judith and Cassie discuss the importance of showing up on social media platforms to increase brand visibility. They also emphasise the value of being an early adopter of new technologies and tools to stay ahead of the competition.

They discuss various tips and insights on working with A-listers, landing dream clients, and growing one's brand. Cassie emphasises the importance of building a great service, focusing on learning and understanding clients' needs, and staying true to the core purpose and emotions behind one's brand.

In this conversation they discuss the importance of understanding the purpose and emotions behind building a brand.

From fangirl to CEO of top celebrity social media/music management firm, Cassie Petrey (Forbes 30 under 30 and Billboard 30 under 30 recipient) is the woman behind some of the most iconic artists social media marketing including Backstreet Boys and Ed Sheeran.

You can find out more about our guest and today's episode in this Maverick Paradox Magazine article here.


Maverick leadership is all about thinking outside the box and challenging the status quo. It's about having the courage to take risks and the confidence to lead in a way that is authentic and genuine.

But amplifying your influence as a leader isn't just about having a strong vision or a big personality. It's also about having the right leadership capability and being able to execute on your ideas and plans.

The consequences of not having the right level of influence as a leader can be significant. Without the ability to inspire and motivate others, you may struggle to achieve your goals and make a real impact.

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Judith's book: The Maverick Paradox: The Secret Power Behind Successful Leaders. 

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