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The Maverick Paradox Podcast is a twice weekly show where Judith Germain demonstrates that Maverick Leadership exists everywhere, through her conversations with a diverse array of guests.

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May 15, 2023

In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Joshua Berry about daring to be naive. What actually is naivety, is it wise or inclusive? Why did being naive become a bad thing 200 years ago.

Judith talks about how Maverick Leaders only want people to follow them if they genuinely choose too. They discuss principle led actions and how they match the way the communities and organisations are evolving. What's the danger of Ai when we ignore naivety, and don't mind our language?

This is a conversation which explores the times when you are 'right' but are happy to be 'wrong' for the sake of the relationship. Listen to this fun and informative conversation.

You can find out more about our guest and today's episode in this Maverick Paradox Magazine article here.

Joshua Berry is a world class facilitator of change. As an author, speaker, entrepreuneur, and director of Econic, Joshua has spent the last two decades evolving the what, who, and why of Fortune 500 companies and venture-backed startups.


Maverick leadership is all about thinking outside the box and challenging the status quo. It's about having the courage to take risks and the confidence to lead in a way that is authentic and genuine.

But amplifying your influence as a leader isn't just about having a strong vision or a big personality. It's also about having the right leadership capability and being able to execute on your ideas and plans.

The consequences of not having the right level of influence as a leader can be significant. Without the ability to inspire and motivate others, you may struggle to achieve your goals and make a real impact.

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