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May 29, 2023

In today's Short Talk Judith Germain speaks to Marc Lesser about the importance of compassionate accountability in the workplace, particularly in the context of remote work. They discuss how bringing more emotion and emotional intelligence into the workplace can lead to better results and sustainability. They also discuss how managers should be more accepting of personal issues that may arise when working from home.

Marc Lesser discusses the importance of having conversations about success, collaboration, and culture in the workplace, as well as the core tenants of Zen Buddhism and how they can be applied to the workplace. He also quotes Wendell Berry's "Be joyful though you've considered all the facts" as a reminder to find joy and compassion in the midst of challenges.

Marc Lesser is a CEO, executive coach, and Zen teacher. He founded and was CEO of 3 companies, and helped develop a mindfulness programme inside of Google's headquarters. Marc is a director of Tassajara, Zen Mountain Center, the first Zen monastery in the western world.

You can find out more about our guest and today's episode in this Maverick Paradox Magazine article here.


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